The Ducks expect to know by early next week whether to expect team captain Scott Niedermayer and fellow superstar Teemu Selanne on the ice when training camp begins Sept. 10. It doesn?t look promising in either case. "Obviously, at some point I have to ask Scotty if he plans to come to camp or not," General Manager Brian Burke said Tuesday. "I have to ask them both that. I probably will pretty quickly, probably by this weekend. "My guess would be that they?re probably not. If that were their intent, I think I would have heard by now." Since Niedermayer and Selanne went public with thoughts of retirement in the wake of the Ducks winning their first Stanley Cup championship in June, Burke has followed through with a commitment to withhold pressure and give both players as much time as necessary to reach decisions.